After Charlottesville


I was unfortunately not able to attend the Charlottesville rally, but like I am sure every other White advocate in the country and the world has been doing this past week and a half, I have been following the events, the news, and learning about what really happened. I think there are some major things we need to take-away from this for future activism and things we learned that can help us grow still further in the future. Here is a brief list:

#1: Know and Be Able to Communicate the Difference Between a White Nationalist, and a White Supremacist:

Once again, the media attacked us with everything they have, including the old slurs and slanders that they have foisted on pro-Whites movements for years. Calling White Nationalists White supremacists and Neo-Nazis is the oldest slander in the book. It is not that no such people exist, it is merely that (1) they are very few in number, and (2) there is a massive difference between White Nationalists and the Alt-Right on the one hand and supremacists and Nazis on the other.

I have written extensively at this blog about defining terms and labels associated with the White Rights Movement. I have listed three of those posts below which might be useful to people. I wish to repeat the most important definitions in light of Charlottesville. We must know the differences between these things and be able to clearly articulate them to normies:

Alt-Right: The Alt-Right is a movement of people seeking an alternative to the mainstream right and left, who care about White identity, Western culture, and Nationalism. The movement is ideologically diverse within these parameters, and it is hard to pin it down further without leaving out some principle component.

White Nationalist: A White Nationalist is someone who (1) promotes and advocates for the rights and interests of White people, and (2) promotes racially homogenous societies over multi-racial ones, including advocating that majority White countries remain majority White.

White Supremacist: A White supremacist is a racial supremacist who is White. White supremacists, like supremacists of other races, believe that one race (in this case the White race) is objectively superior to some or all other races.

Neo-Nazi/National Socialist: A National Socialist is someone who promotes a form of government and society as seen in Nazi Germany. It is usually characterized by socialism, ethnic nationalism, and autocracy.

The differences between these should be manifest from these definitions, but I will spell out a few:

  • The Alt-right is a broad movement concerned with preserving all things European in origin, and in providing a political alternative to the current mainstream.
  • White Nationalism is a movement that seeks to protect the rights of White people, and preserve White majorities in White majority countries.
  • Racial supremacy, including White Supremacy, is not a movement or a complete ideology, but rather is a way of approaching racial differences, that assigns value to them in such a way that some are viewed as better than others.
  • Neo-Nazism/National Socialism is not a racial ideology but a political one, that seeks to create a form of government and society in line with National Socialist thinking.

Here are three of my posts on this that may be helpful in further explaining these definitions:

As you should be able to see, these four things are all different. Calling the Alt-right movement a Neo-Nazi movement, or a White Nationalist a White supremacist, is akin to calling an everyday Democratic voter an Antifa terrorist merely because many Antifa vote Democrat. Obviously, most Democratic voters are not Antifa, just like the vast majority of White Nationalists and Alt-Right supporters are neither supremacists nor Nazis.

Passing this video around is also not a bad idea:

#2: The Klan:

Just disavow it ok. We have nothing to do with the Klan. The modern Klan is so tiny it hardly is worth mentioning.  The Klan really wasn’t a good match for us anyway, even back in its heyday. We just are not like the Klan. End of story.

#3: Neo-Nazism and White Supremacy are Places Movements Go to Die:

The results of the ABC News poll on the public’s perception of the “acceptability” of these views, as well as the results for the number of people who think that Trump should not have condemned these groups at all, which I discussed in greater detail here, proves that for the time being, we must continue to vigorously dissociate ourselves with these small fringe elements. I know it is obnoxious for people who know we are not Nazis or supremacists to constantly have to act as if these labels have power to define us by reacting to them this way, but for now, it is important that we stress the truth: these are small fringe elements and do not define us or the White Rights Movement. If we say nothing, we may feel good to ourselves, that we are expressing our confidence that these labels do not apply to us, but others will be lead by those who are calling us these false names to believe that they are warranted. For the time being, we must continue to point out that these are slurs and slanders.

While I agree that not punching right can have its upsides, there may be downsides as well, and it is worth at least rethinking any strict interpretation of that strategy you might have adopted for the immediate future. No, it is not “fair” that the left doesn’t have to condemn their bad elements in order not to be seen as one of them, and we do, but that’s just life sometimes.

#4: Are We Right Wing or Left Wing—And Does It Matter:

One of the most surprising findings for me was actually that substantial minorities of the public think that White Nationalists are either mostly left wing or equally likely to be left wing as right wing. Specifically:

Only a plurality of 36% of the whole country believes that White Nationalists are mostly right wing (what?!). 40% of Whites, 31% of Independents, and only 20% of Republicans think White Nationalist are mostly right-wing. 23% of the general public thinks we are equally likely to be right or left wing, 33% are not sure, and 7% actually thinks we are mostly a left-wing movement. 31% of Whites think we are either mostly or equally likely to be left-wing, 33% of Independents think this, and a staggering 45% of Republicans. 15% of Republicans think White Nationalists are mostly left-wing.

I’m not sure how we should respond to this: in some ways, I think it is advantageous to have an ambiguous position in the current partisan political framework. It makes us more approachable to Independents, and to possible liberal converts of which we certainly have seen some. With that said, if substantial percentages of Republicans and Conservatives think of us as left-wing that will likely predispose them to reject us, and they are definitely the group which we are most likely to win over, and which our most concerted efforts should be made to reach.

Although I think it is true that we don’t fit neatly into the traditional right/left paradigm I also think it is still true that, by and large, we lean more right wing than left wing, for a variety of reasons. Thus perceptions of us as equally likely to be left-wing are, I think, false. Whether we should do anything to counter these perceptions is up for debate.

#5: Charlottesville Got us our First Real Nationally Representative Polling with the Public:

The more we learn about the public’s views and perceptions of us, the better we can tailor our activism and outreach strategies for successfully convincing more normies to join us. I have recognized the importance of polling for some time, but obviously am not in a position to do anything about it. I figured something would happen eventually that would propel us to enough prominence that pollsters would start paying attention to us. That is starting to happen.

#6: We Have A LOT more Support Than We Probably Dared to Hope For:

We are still a small movement, despite our room for growth, and most all of us know that. As I discussed in this post, the polls that have come out have shown some amazing things that should serve as encouragement to us going foreword. Here are some highlights:

10% of the general public now says they support the Alt-Right movement. That is about 22 million people. Research indicates that 10% is a cultural tipping point for ideals so that once an ideal reaches 10% support it will begin to grow rapidly and is predicted to eventually become the majority opinion.

4% of the general public, 5% of Whites and Independents, and 7% of Republicans think that White Nationalists are “mostly right” in our political positions.

Moreover, 21% of the general public, 24% of Whites, 16% of Independents, and 35% of Republicans believe that White Nationalists “have a point.” This means that almost a quarter of Whites, and over a third of Republicans are sympathetic to White Nationalism. Finally, 21% of Democrats believe this also.

If you add these numbers to those above who chose “mostly right” you get a full measure of how many people are at least sympathetic to White Nationalism: 25% of the general public, 29% of Whites, 21% of Independents, and 42% of Republicans. This is more Republicans than the 35% of Republicans who chose “mostly wrong.” Thus, more Republicans are now with us than against us.

As to whether or not we are Nazis/Supremacists: 21% of the general public thinks the Alt-right does NOT hold Neo-Nazi/White supremacist views. Only 39% of the general public believes that the Alt-right is a Neo-Nazi/White supremacist movement: 57% of Democrats believe this, and only 19% of Republicans believe this. To recap: approaching a quarter of the country is convinced the Alt-Right is NOT a Neo-Nazi/White supremacist group, and only 39% are convinced it is. Among Republicans, the proportion that is convinced that we are Nazis/supremacists drops to just 19%.

#7: We Have Massive Room for Growth:

If the numbers of those who now openly consider themselves our supporters or sympathizers are good news, there is more good news in the large numbers of undecided people. The fence sitters are waiting to be convinced and we must renew our energy to get our message out through all mediums possible—from internet memes and blog posts to large public events and political candidates: these people are open to our message, now it is up to us to get it out to them.

The large numbers of people who are open to being won over to our side should also give us pause to be careful not to mess this up: depending on how we do outreach we could win these people or turn them off. We must be careful, see my point #3 about not associating with Neo-Nazism/ White supremacists: when 83% of the public is convinced a view is “unacceptable” it is best not to associate ourselves with it. We have a war to win here!

Here are some highlights on just how much room for growth we have:

When asked to choose whether they either supported or opposed the Alt-Right movement 41% of the general public said they had “no opinion.”

Asked to describe White Nationalist political positions as either “mostly right” “they went too far, but they have a point”, or “Mostly wrong” a full 25% of the general public said they were “unsure.” 19% of Whites, 32% of Independents, and 23% of Republicans were “unsure.”

When asked whether or not the Alt-Right movement had Neo-Nazi/White Supremacist views 39% of the general public selected “no opinion” as their answer.

#8: A substantial Minority of the Public is Not Convinced by the Media’s Depiction of us in Charlottesville as Terrorists:

It now is clear that the Left was the instigator of practically all the violence in Charlottesville, and video evidence also strongly suggests that the car crash was due to the driver becoming frightened as his vehicle was attacked by Antifa terrorists and was not himself any sort of terrorist, but rather sped away in self-defense. Obviously, we will have to wait for the trial to find out all the details, but from what we know that seems the most likely conclusion. Even the prosecutor obviously doesn’t think he has any chance of convincing a jury/judge that the driver was acting out a pre-planned terrorist attack, or he would have charged him with premeditated murder, instead of 2nd degree. But the media has been non-stop blaming us for the violence that broke out, and saying the car incident was a terrorist attack, what does the general public believe?

20% of the general public thinks the car crash was NOT an act of terrorism, and a further 13% are unsure. 22% of Whites, 17% of Independents, and 35% of Republicans think the car crash was NOT an act of terrorism. 13% of Whites and Republicans, and 25% of Independents are not sure. Furthermore, 15% of Democrats think it was NOT an act of terrorism, with 10% unsure.


In the end, it is starting to look like Charlottesville will be a net benefit, despite the horrible accusations of the media, and even Trump blaming us for it.

This has, I think, been a moment when our movement has lost its innocence, realizing that enemies in government sometimes will defy even the law of the land to deprive us of our Constitutional rights to free speech and assembly. But we will not be broken. We will fight on. Here’s to hoping the lawsuits going foreword against Charlottesville are won, and we make as much news then as we did now.


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